Former First Lady Michelle Obama was invited by the Women’s Foundation of Colorado for their 30th anniversary event at the Pepsi Center in Denver on Tuesday. There, Michelle spoke about her life before, during and after her time in the White House.

She spoke about being America’s first Black First Lady and the obstacles that came with the job. Though she made it seem easy, the first Lady disclosed that she had to shatter the glass ceiling in order to achieve all that she has. The WFCO president Lauren Casteel asked Mrs Obama which of the things she experienced hurt the most and she said:

“The shards that cut me the deepest were the ones that intended to cut. Knowing that after eight years of working really hard for this country, there are still people who won’t see me for what I am because of my skin color.”

She referenced racist attacks she endured, including being called an ape and disparaging references made about her body. Michelle said that though she’s tries to live her slogan, “when they go low, I go high”, she doesn’t pretend such terrible attacks don’t hurt her, because it lets those doing the viciousness off the hook.

When asked about any plans to run for office in the future, the former First Lady said no, but she said public service will forever be part of her life.